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Comparing Aaron Rodgers’ holdout to Carson Palmer and the Bengals in 2011

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The Packers fan's guide to coping with Aaron Rodgers trade rumors

How far will Aaron Rodgers’ holdout go? 

Rodgers did not attend Green Bay’s three-day minicamp this week, which means the three-time MVP is considered a holdout. This will cost Rodgers less than $100,000 in fines unless the Packers waive those costs. 

Now, the next date to watch is July 27. That’s when the Packers open mandatory training camp ahead of the 2021 NFL season. If Rodgers still is holding out at that point, then the rift with Green Bay president Mark Murphy and general manager Brian Gutekunst might reach a tipping point. It would be the most notable holdout since Emmitt Smith with the Cowboys in 1993. 

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This is different, however. Rodgers is a quarterback. The last quarterback to sit out a full season was Kelly Stouffer, who could not agree to a contract with the Cardinals after being selected in the first round in 1987. Again, though, this isn’t the same situation.

But there are parallels with the rift former No. 1 pick Carson Palmer had with the Bengals in 2011. Palmer was eventually traded to Oakland during the season, but not until after a messy divorce with the Bengals. And yes, Rodgers’ agent Dave Dunn was also Palmer’s agent. 

Will Rodgers and the Packers come to the same conclusion? Perhaps. But there are major differences between the two holdouts, and those need to be addressed. 

State of the franchise 

The Bengals finished 4-12 in Palmer’s seventh season in 2010, and he finished with 3,970 yards, 26 TDs and 20 interceptions. “Palmer had a meeting with Bengals owner Mike Brown to request for a separation from the team, coupled with a threat to retire if that demand was not met,” Cincinnati.com reported in January 2011.

A decade later, Rodgers addressed his future after the Packers lost the second of back-to-back NFC championship games to Tampa Bay on Jan. 19, 2020. He called his situation with the Packers a “beautiful mystery,” which continued the ongoing speculation about his future in Green Bay despite a 26-6 regular-season record with Matt LaFleur as head coach. 

Is this different? Yes and no. Green Bay is a Super Bowl-caliber team, and Rodgers has kept them in the hunt for 16 seasons. Palmer and the Bengals were an up-and-down team that did not advance past the AFC Wild Card round. But clearly the issues that led to the discontent of both quarterbacks didn’t happen overnight. 

The next quarterback

Palmer’s demands led Cincinnati to draft Andy Dalton with the No. 35 pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. Dalton led TCU to a 13-0 record that included a Mountain West Conference championship and a Rose Bowl victory against Wisconsin the previous season. He served as an insurance policy of sorts in case Palmer would not return.

The Packers already created their problem by trading up to draft Jordan Love with the No. 26 pick in the 2020 NFL Draft. Love also played in the Mountain West Conference at Utah State. He led the Aggies to an 11-2 record in 2018, but that record dipped to 7-6 with a new coaching staff the following season. Green Bay drafted Love instead of adding another more immediate piece to a returning NFC championship team. 

Is this different? Yes. Cincinnati made the move as a reaction to Palmer’s discontent. Green Bay created the discontent by trading up to add a quarterback to a roster that was ready-made to contend for a Super Bowl. That opened the door for criticism that hasn’t stopped since. 

Trade talks

According to Cincinnati.com, reports that Palmer said he would never step foot in Paul Brown Stadium surfaced in March. Bengals owner Mike Brown publicly said after the NFL lockout that offseason that Palmer would not be traded. Brown doubled down at training camp in July, telling reporters, “I wish him well and he has retired. That is his choice.” Brown followed through on that, and the team placed Palmer on the “did not report” list ahead of the 2011 season. 

Rodgers has not directly said he would not play for the Packers in 2021, but ESPN insider Adam Schefter’s report that the quarterback is disgruntled and wants out overshadowed the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft on April 29. Murphy and Gutekunst have repeatedly expressed that Rodgers will not be traded ahead of the 2021 season, but the situation is starting to resemble Brett Favre’s exit from Green Bay in 2008. Favre was traded to the Jets that season.

Now, the question becomes whether Rodgers reports for training camp in July. That will be the focus over the next six weeks. 

Is this different? The situations are similar, even if Rodgers hasn’t publicly asked for a trade. Both quarterbacks play for old-school ownership, and Green Bay could follow the same path as Cincinnati if there isn’t a fence-mending with Rodgers. 

The regular season

The Bengals opened the 2011 season with a 4-2 record through the bye week with Dalton at quarterback, and that prompted Brown to trade Palmer to the Raiders on Oct. 18, 2011. Cincinnati went on to a 9-7 record and reached the AFC Wild Card round. 

This is the potential next step for the Packers if Rodgers’ holdout stretches into the season. Love would be the potential Week 1 starter against New Orleans despite not taking a snap in 2020. That’s a risky move considering that most of the Packers’ roster from those past two NFC championship runs remains on board. If Rodgers’ holdout drags on through training camp, it will get more attention than the circus with Favre in 2008. 

Is this different? The worst-case scenario for the Packers could be catastrophic. The franchise would watch back-to-back Hall of Fame quarterbacks leave in unceremonious fashion, and Rodgers’ situation already has divided the fan base in a similar way. Because Palmer had not played well in 2020, it was easier for Cincinnati fans to turn toward Dalton. Love would face way more pressure in Green Bay if he is the starter, which isn’t a sure thing at this point given the lack of experience. 

Long-term implications

Dalton had a 70-61-2 record in nine seasons with the Bengals, and he led the franchise to five playoff appearances. Cincinnati did not win any of those games, and the franchise moved on last season by drafting Joe Burrow with the No. 1 pick. Palmer had a 44-37-1 record in seven seasons with Oakland and Arizona after leaving Cincinnati, and his lone postseason victory for his career came against the Packers in 2016. 

The Packers would be banking on yet another stroke of luck. Rodgers’ first season was bumpy as a starter, but he turned out to be a more efficient Favre. That’s led to a 12-9 postseason record and a Super Bowl 45 victory. Love would be tasked with living up to impossible expectations, but the same will be true of whoever takes the snaps after Rodgers leaves Green Bay, which looks like it will happen even if it’s not during the 2020 season. 

Is this different? The parallels with the Palmer situation are there, especially if Rodgers holds out, but the stakes are much higher in Green Bay. The Packers’ situation remains TBD, and July will be very interesting if Rodgers does not show up.

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Who is in the College World Series? Teams, odds & bracket for 2021 NCAA baseball tournament

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The field is set for the 2021 Men’s College World Series. 

The final two games of the super regionals — Dallas Baptist vs. Virginia and Notre Dame vs. Mississippi State — wrapped up on Monday, with the Cavaliers and the Bulldogs punching their tickets to Omaha to play for a national championship. 

There has already been plenty of chaos in the postseason to get to this point. No. 1 Arkansas was taken down by unranked NC State in the super regionals. No. 6 TCU was knocked out in the regional round, as were four other top seeds in the original bracket.

Yet for all the chaos, the field is still loaded with teams viewed coming into the playoffs as among the best in the nation. Only NC State and Virginia come in as teams ranked outside the top 16 at the start of the playoffs. 

Here’s all you need to know about the 2021 Men’s College World Series.  

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Who is in the College World Series in 2021?

No. 2 Texas (47-15)

No team left in the 2021 field has won as many national championships as Texas. The Longhorns are looking to add to their six titles, tied for second with LSU behind only USC’s 12 championships. The No. 2 team in the nation has carved through the playoffs to this point, winning all three regional games and both super regional games against South Florida. The Longhorns have been held to single-digit runs just once and have yet to allow a team to score more than four runs in a game as they’ve outscored opponents 49-12 during the NCAA playoffs. 

And it’s no surprise they’ve dominated as this Texas team is loaded. It has one of the best starting pitchers in the country in Ty Madden, who has struck out 119 batters and posted a 2.41 ERA in 100.2 innings of work, to lead a group of arms that has recorded a collective 2.89 ERA this season, the lowest among Division I schools. But there’s more to Texas than just the pitching. Four batters in the everyday lineup are batting over .300 — second baseman Mitchell Daly, designated hitter Ivan Melendez, third baseman Cam Williams and first baseman Zach Zubia — and three of them have clubbed double-digit home run totals — Melendez, Williams and Zubia. There’s also some speed with center fielder Mike Antico already up to 39 stolen bases and left fielder Eric Kennedy sitting at 17. 

No. 3 Tennessee (50-16)

Tennessee just finished ahead in a tough SEC East at the end of the regular season, and had a strong SEC Tournament performance that came to an end in the finals against the top-ranked team in the country in Arkansas, but it’s been a perfect run since that extra-inning championship loss. The Volunteers swept through the Knoxville Regional and took down No. 14 LSU in two straight games in the Knoxville Super Regionals, winning 4-2 and then 15-6 to knock out the Tigers. 

The Volunteers have gotten it done on both sides of the ball. Blade Tidwell has emerged as a tough arm to face down the stretch with a 3.57 ERA this season and 87 strikeouts in 95.2 innings per work. He’s led a pitching staff that is second in Division I with a 3.72 strikeout-to-walk ratio and has the third-lowest walk rate in Division I at 2.44 BB/9. Sean Hunley has made a team-high 33 appearances and pitched to a 2.92 ERA and nine saves. The lineup can do a little bit of everything, with high on-base guys like shortstop Liam Spence (.477 OBP) and designated hitter Pete Derkay (.403 OBP), some power from bats like right fielder Jordan Beck (15 homers) and first baseman Luc Lipcius (15 homers) and some speed from second baseman Max Ferguson (15 stolen bases) and center fielder Drew Gilbert (10 stolen bases). 

No. 4 Vanderbilt

There is as much hype surrounding the Commodores as there is for any team in the College World Series. And why not? After a disappointing showing in the SEC Tournament, Vanderbilt swept through the Nashville Regional and the Nashville Super Regional, using its dynamic duo of Kumar Rocker and Jack Leiter to each go seven innings with double-digit strikeout totals against East Carolina to send the team to Omaha. 

The one-two punch of Leiter and Rocker is simply unfair. They’re the consensus top college pitching prospects in the 2021 MLB Draft. Leiter has an ERA of 2.16 with 156 strikeouts in 96 innings of work, while Rocker has a 2.46 ERA with 155 strikeouts in 106 innings. The two lead a pitching staff that has the second-highest strikeout-per-nine rate in Division I at 11.8 K/9. And top-to-bottom, the lineup is dangerous. Freshman center fielder Enrique Bradfield Jr. has walked 42 times to just 36 walks while batting .356 and swiping a Division I-leading 46 bases this season as the leadoff hitter. The next two batters in the order — shortstop Carter Young and first baseman Dominic Keegan — each have 14 homers or more with Keegan batting .361 with a .673 slugging percentage and Young adding nine steals to his team-high 15 homers. And under coach Tim Corbin, who guided his team to the 2019 College World Series title, this Commodores team looks like a potent threat to repeat two years later. 

No. 5 Arizona (45-16)

When Arizona has been clicking this season, the Wildcats have been as tough to take down as any team in the nation. Twice during the year, Arizona had win streaks of at least nine games. The Wildcats then proceeded to dominate the Tucson Regional, winning all three games to move on to the super regionals. Returning to Tucson, there was no shortage of runs as Arizona won the first game against Ole Miss 9-3, lost the second game 12-3 and won the third and decisive matchup 16-3 to punch a spot in the College World Series. 

The Pac-12’s regular-season champion has had one of the nation’s best offenses this season. The team .327 batting average ranks fifth among Division I teams and the 526 runs scored lead all teams. Center fielder Donta Williams has an on-base percentage nearly at .500 while designated hitter Jacob Berry and catcher Daniel Susac each have slugging percentages above .580. Arizona’s bullpen has four relievers with more than 20 innings and an ERA below 3.00, while Chandler Murphy has been a valuable swing arm, starting and relieving and working to a perfect 7-0 record and a 3.63 ERA in 62 innings of work. There’s maybe no better lineup than that of the Wildcats in the College World Series this year. 

No. 9 Stanford (38-15)

No. 6 Texas Tech handled the Lubbock Regional and looked like it would be a challenge to take down on the road to the College World Series. Enter Stanford. At the Lubbock Super Regional, the Cardinal crushed the Red Raiders, winning the first game 15-3 and the second game 9-0. That came after Stanford staved off an underdog in UC Irvine, who defeated the Cardinal in the first finals game before Stanford came back to win the final elimination game 11-8. 

Stanford has one of the most dynamic batters in the College World Series in center fielder Brock Jones. The sophomore has a slash line of .302/.452/.620 with 16 homers and 14 stolen bases, while driving in a team-leading 54 RBIs and a team-high 53 runs scored. Jones was the sparkplug in the final super regional win, blasting three home runs to help send his team to Omaha. Second baseman Tim Tawa has been a similarly exciting player to watch as he’s batting .281 with 11 homers and 13 stolen bases. Ace Brendan Beck has emerged as a dominant arm for the Cardinal, pitching to a 2.96 ERA with 128 strikeouts in 100.1 innings and a near-perfect 9-1 record. Opponents have hit just a measly .195 against him so far this season. 

No. 7 Mississippi State (45-16)

Yet another team from the vaunted SEC reaching the College World Series, the Bulldogs brought out the bats against Notre Dame to finish off the Fighting Irish in the Super Regionals, defeating them 11-7 in the third game to reach the College World Series. Even against the No. 10 team in the nation, it was no surprise to see Mississippi State light up the box score as it won 9-8 in the first game of the Starkville Super Regional after sweeping through the regional with at least six runs scored in each game.

It has been the latest surge for a Mississippi State team that has been up and down near the end of the season. It ended the regular season by sweeping a tough Alabama team before it was knocked out of the SEC Tournament in resounding fashion, losing the first game to Florida 13-1 and the second game to Tennessee 12-2. But when this Bulldog team is clicking, it is one of the best in the nation. Will Bednar has given Mississippi State a true ace as he’s considered a top MLB Draft prospect as he’s pitched to a 3.53 ERA with 113 strikeouts in 74 innings, while compiling a 7-1 record, and Christian MacLeod has shown flashes of brilliance as the No. 2 starter. The pitching staff as a whole leads the nation with a 12.4 K/9. The lineup starts with one of the best bats in the nation in right fielder Tanner Allen, who is batting over. 390 with double-digit homers and more than 60 RBIs. Center fielder Rowdey Jordan has been another dynamic bat with a batting average over .320 and reliever Landon Sims has been a wipeout closer with 10 saves, 81 strikeouts and a 1.28 ERA in 42.1 innings. 

NC State (35-18)

The Wolfpack pulled off the biggest upset so far this year when, on Sunday, it took the elimination game against No. 1 Arkansas to eliminate the Razorbacks. Arkansas won the SEC regular season and tournament titles and finished the year 50-13, having lost only one series all year: the super regionals. But NC State had proven coming into the series that it could hang with any team. It reached the ACC Championship final, though it fell to Duke, but wrapped up the year on fire, having swept then-No. 16 Pitt and taken two of three from then-No. 9 Florida State. After the ACC tournament, NC State proceeded to sweep through the Ruston Regional, beating Alabama and taking both games against No. 17 Louisiana Tech. 

Simply put, this is a team that hits. Left fielder Jonny Butler, center fielder Tyler McDonough, designated hitter Terrell Tatum and first baseman Austin Murr are all batting over .300, while six total batters on the team have mashed double-digit home runs. Butler, McDonough and Tatum have proven to be dual-threats for the offense, with each batter having hit at least 11 home runs and swiped at least 13 bases. The issue has been more with keeping the opposition from scoring. The team has a collective 5.12 ERA this season, and only starter Sam Highfill (3.98) has an ERA below 4.00, but the pitching has steadily improved as the season has gone on and has shown it can get the job done against tough lineups. 

Virginia (34-25)

The last time UVA reached the College World Series, the Cavaliers defeated Vanderbilt to win the 2015 national championship. They’re back in 2021, and have done it not as one of the top ranked teams, but as an underdog. Virginia lost in the ACC semifinals to Duke after finishing third in the Coastal Division, but did eliminate Notre Dame from the playoffs along the way. The Cavaliers then lost the first game of the Columbia Regional to South Carolina before winning four straight, beating the Gamecocks and twice beating No. 15 Old Dominion. They faced similar odds in the Columbia Super Regional, losing the first game to Dallas Baptist before winning the next two elimination games. 

UVA hasn’t been a flashy team this season, but it has gotten the job done when it needs to. The Cavaliers were led at the dish by outfielder Kyle Teel, who hit a go-ahead grand slam against Dallas Baptist in Game 3 of the super regional. He has hit over .300 this season with nine home runs as he has made an early impression on the Cavaliers as a freshman. On the mound, senior Andrew Abbott has continued his standout UVA career in his final season with a 3.04 ERA and 152 strikeouts in 100.2 innings of work. If he’s on the mound, he’ll be a challenge for any team to beat. 

College World Series odds

This section will be updated when odds for the College World Series have been posted. 

College World Series bracket 2021

The four teams in each bracket will face off in a double-elimination tournament the same style as the regionals to decide which two teams will move on to the College World Series finals. 

Once there, the winners from each bracket will face off in a best-of-three series to declare a national champion. 

Here’s a look at how the brackets are shaping up in Omaha. 

Bracket 1

Team W L
No. 4 Vanderbilt
No. 5 Arizona
No. 9 Stanford
NC State

Bracket 2

Team W L
No. 2 Texas
No. 3 Tennessee
No. 7 Mississippi State
Virginia

When & where is the College World Series?

  • Date: June 19-30
  • TV Network: ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU
  • Location: TD Ameritrade Park Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska

After the College World Series was called off in 2020 due to the coronavirus pandemic, baseball will be back in TD Ameritrade Park Omaha in Omaha, Nebraska in 2021. 

Omaha has hosted the College World Series dating back to 1950, and TD Ameritrade has been the home ballpark since June 2011. 

ESPN networks will continue their coverage of the NCAA Division I Baseball Championships through the College World Series. A schedule for the games has not been released yet. 

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Joel Embiid stops in middle of postgame press conference to admire Kawhi Leonard’s monster dunk

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Joel Embiid had a brutal night, but at least Kawhi Leonard was there to cheer him up.

In the 76ers’ Game 4 loss to the Hawks on Monday, which evened the Eastern Conference semifinal series at two games apiece, Embiid totaled 17 points, 21 rebounds and four assists, but he shot just 4 of 20 from the field, including 0 of 12 in the second half. Yes, the MVP runner-up missed every shot he took over the final two periods — not ideal if you’re a Sixers fan.

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Embiid’s biggest miss came in the closing seconds when he rolled to the basket and botched a layup that would have given Philadelphia the lead. The four-time All-Star has been playing with a torn meniscus in his right knee, and he admitted that the injury limited his explosiveness.

“Great look, great look. I just didn’t have the lift,” Embiid said during his postgame media availability. “Thought I got fouled, too. But usually I would go up, especially for a bucket like that, try to dunk it, or try to get fouled and get an and-one. But I just seem to not be able to jump for obvious reasons. Like I said, it’s tough, but gotta think about Game 5.”

Before the conclusion of his press conference, Embiid stopped in the middle of an answer to watch an incredible moment from Game 4 of the Clippers-Jazz series. Embiid caught a glimpse of Leonard annihilating Jazz big man Derrick Favors with a one-handed dunk and couldn’t help but react to the play as it unfolded.

“I just felt like I didn’t have it tonight, and of course you can kind of — oh my God,” Embiid said. “You see that dunk? See that Kawhi dunk? Man, wow. But you can see from the beginning of the game, it was tough. You could just tell. If I’m not dominating, especially defensively, it’s easy to tell. So, I’m sure they saw it.

“But yeah, that Kawhi dunk was crazy. Man. All right, guys. Have a good night.”

Perhaps that vicious slam will inspire a bounce-back performance from Embiid as the series heads back to Philly.

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NBA Twitter reacts to Clippers’ Kawhi Leonard viciously dunking on Jazz’s Derrick Favors

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A warning for any players still eligible to compete in the 2021 NBA playoffs: If you see Kawhi Leonard coming down the lane, get out of the way.

The Clippers star added another yet another victim to his postseason list during the first half of Monday’s Game 4 against the Jazz. With less than two minutes remaining in the second quarter, Leonard drove into the paint, took off and obliterated Utah big man Derrick Favors.

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“Whoa! A major Kawhi-light,” play-by-play announcer Ian Eagle said on the TNT broadcast. 

Oh, you want that dunk in slow motion? Here you go:

Just look at this beautiful poster (and check out Donovan Mitchell’s face):

Leonard threw down a terrific one-handed slam on Mavericks forward Maxi Kleber in the first round, but his destruction of Favors may have been even more impressive. Here’s how NBA Twitter reacted to the dunk, including Hornets forward Miles Bridges, who knows a thing or two about launching an all-out assault on the rim:

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